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BerichtGeplaatst: 04 jul 2013 22:37 

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Arsenij 14 schreef:
OK ))))))
Look, if there are ANY friendly or unofficial matches that you have ANY info about, then it wouild be VERRRRRY helpful of you to... well, you know )))
Yes, i've read it in your mail.
I am very busy but now and then i will post something.
Maybe you can make a specific list of games you'll need some more info for.
OK, to start with...

24-10-64 friendly Helmondia'55 - Ajax 2-3 (line-up???)
06-12-64 friendly de Graafschap - Ajax 0-3 (goalscorers and line-up???)
31-01-65 friendly Wageningen - Ajax 1-3 (goalscorers and line-up???)
28-02-65 friendly de Volewijkers - Ajax 4-4 (line-up???)
14-03-65 friendly Ajax - Kaiserslautern 2-1 (line-up???)
16-05-65 friendly Ajax - Norwich City 5-1 (line-up???)
30-07-65 friendly Meidericher SV - Ajax 1-1 (goalscorer and line-up???)
31-07-65 friendly Borussia Neunkirchen - Ajax 5-2 (goalscorers and line-up???)
07-08-65 friendly Ajax - Stoke City 5-3 (line-up???)
15-08-65 friendly Holland Sport - Ajax 0-3 (line-up???)
26-08-65 friendly Ajax - JOS 3-0 (goalscorers and line-up???)
02-09-65 friendly NEC - Ajax 1-4 (line-up???)
22-10-65 friendly ZVV - Ajax (the score, goalscorers and line-up???)
10-03-66 friendly AFC - Ajax 1-6 (line-up???)
08-06-66 friendly Cherno more (Varna, Bulgary) - Ajax 3-1 (goalscorer and line-up???)
31-07-66 friendly AGOVV - Ajax 1-5 (line-up???)
03-08-66 friendly Ajax - Aston Villa 2-0 (line-up???)
07-08-66 friendly Ajax - CSKA (Sofia, Bulgary) 7-1 (line-up???)
25-08-66 friendly Ajax - Noordwijk 5-1 (goalscorers and line-up???)
between 12 and 17-09-66 three friendlies:
Noordwijk 5-2 (goalscorers and line-up???)
Spartaan'20 21-0 (goalscorers and line-up???)
JOS 13-0 (goalscorers and line-up???)
22-09-66 friendly Ajax - Roodenburg 6-1 (line-up???)
25-10-66 Ajax - Koln 1-1 (line-up???)
01-02-67 friendly Anderlecht - Ajax 4-1 (line-up???)
06-08-67 friendly Ajax - Anderlecht 3-1 (line-up???)
09-08-67 friendly Ajax - Everton 3-0 (line-up???)
23-08-67 friendly Standard Liege (Luik) 0 Ajax 0-1 (line-up???)
17-09-67 friendly Ajax - GSV 9-0 (line-up???)
28-09-67 friendly Ajax - Noordwijk 9-0 (goalscorers and line-up???)
22-11-67 friendly den Bosch - Ajax 2-4 (line-up???)
07-12-67 friendly Ajax - Slovan (Bratislava) 5-1 (line-up???)
14-12-67 friendly Israel national team - Ajax 1-6 (line-up???)
25-01-68 friendly Ajax - AZ'67 2-1 (goalscorers and line-up???)
20-03-68 friendly Ajax - Duisburg 1-1 (line-up???)
27-07-68 friendly Sparta Prague - Ajax 2-1 (line-up???)
28-07-68 friendly Slovan Bratislava - Ajax 4-1 (line-up???)
04-08-68 friendly Elinkwijk - Ajax 2-3 (line-up???)
10-08-68 friendly Exselsior - Ajax 1-6 (line-up???)
30-10-68 friendly Man. City - Ajax 3-0 (line-up???)
28-01-69 friendly Ajax - Military Nederland team 3-0 (line-up???)
19-07-69 friendly VV Bergeyk - Ajax 0-15 (goalscorers and line-up???)
30-07-69 friendly SV Wuppertahl - Ajax 1-1 (line-up???)
10-09-69 friendly Slovakie - Ajax 1-1 (line-up???)


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BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jul 2013 15:01 
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30-07-69 friendly SV Wuppertahl - Ajax 1-1 (line-up???)
10-09-69 friendly Slovakie - Ajax 1-1 (line-up???)
I've send them to you by mail!

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BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2013 23:55 

Lid geworden op: 04 apr 2013 10:10
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The very first match of Johan Cruijff in the first team of Ajax

24 october 1964
Helmond. Friendly match
Helmondia'55 - Ajax 2:3

Hoogerman - Suurbier, Schaaphok, Pronk, Ruiter - Visser, Muller (?) - Cruijff (Swart, 46), Vesters, Nuninga (H.Tijm, 46), Petersen

Goals: 5' Clynk, 47' Kreekels - 18' Vesters, 22' Vesters, 75' H.Tijm


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BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2013 23:58 

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Is there anyone from Bergeijk? Maybe anyone have an access to any old Bergeijkisch newspapers?


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BerichtGeplaatst: 24 jul 2013 01:56 
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Maybe you can ask Sjaak Swart if he remembers something. ;)
It is a joke? Or he likes so much to talk via internet with fanats? )))))))))))))))))
Start your conversation with "You may be 75 but i'm sure you still are good enough to play in Ajax 1" and he's your best friend for life and will tell you everything you wanna know.

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BerichtGeplaatst: 24 jul 2013 09:15 

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Where I can start it? I do not know his e-mail or anything else to communicate... )))


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BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jul 2013 18:14 
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Have you send AJAX a letter/mail already to get access in their history/database?

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BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jul 2013 21:08 

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I tried some time ago! On official site of Ajax there's an option - CONTACT with many listed neccecary fields to fill. I filled them all but the field TELEFOONNUMMER... I tried everything - my cell phone number, my home stationary phone number, fake numbers - it did not work out! It always says DIT IS GEEN JUIST TELEFOONNUMMER or something like that...
And they don't show their e-mail adress in order to JUST write them without all those necessary fields...
I e-mail to other clubs and sometimes they answer but there are so many clubs Ajax have played against and it would be much more simple if Ajax self helped me.


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BerichtGeplaatst: 01 aug 2013 00:10 

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6 january 1965 Ajax played friendly against de Graafschaap and won that match 3-0. All I know is that it was the first match for a long time for two players of Ajax who had been suffering before it with serious injuries – Piet Keizer and Ton Pronk. The third goal was scored in the very last minute by Keizer. One more goal was by Siem Tijm.
Who has any info about that match?
ANY help - welcome!
Who scored one more goal?
What the line-up was?
Have Cruijff played or not?


Laatst gewijzigd door Arsenij 14 op 01 aug 2013 10:30, 1 keer totaal gewijzigd.

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BerichtGeplaatst: 01 aug 2013 00:24 
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6 january 1964 Ajax played friendly against de Graafschaap and won that match 3-0. All I know is that it was the first match for a long time for two players of Ajax who had been suffering before it with serious injuries – Piet Keizer and Ton Pronk. The third goal was scored in the very last minute by Keizer. One more goal was by Siem Tijm.
Who has any info about that match?
ANY help - welcome!
Who scored one more goal?
What the line-up was?
Have Cruijff played or not?
Can answer only one question but i think it is an important one.
Cruijff made his (unofficial) debut for AJAX against Helmondia '55 in a friendly.
The date was 24 october 1964.
His official debut was against GVAV on the 15-th of november 1964.

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BerichtGeplaatst: 01 aug 2013 10:35 

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Arsenij 14 schreef:
6 january 1964 Ajax played friendly against de Graafschaap and won that match 3-0. All I know is that it was the first match for a long time for two players of Ajax who had been suffering before it with serious injuries – Piet Keizer and Ton Pronk. The third goal was scored in the very last minute by Keizer. One more goal was by Siem Tijm.
Who has any info about that match?
ANY help - welcome!
Who scored one more goal?
What the line-up was?
Have Cruijff played or not?
Can answer only one question but i think it is an important one.
Cruijff made his (unofficial) debut for AJAX against Helmondia '55 in a friendly.
The date was 24 october 1964.
His official debut was against GVAV on the 15-th of november 1964.
Thank you very much! ))
Though I have already posted it (Posted: Wed 24 Jul 2013, 01:55)
Do you know - did Benny Muller play?


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BerichtGeplaatst: 02 aug 2013 16:26 

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Sorry, the friendly match de Graafschap - Ajax was played not 6 january 1965 but 6 december 1964!
Found some more info, this info did answer some questions but also added some more questions...
The first goal was by Peet Petersen and the second - by Nuninga (but according to the previous info I had the second goal was by Siem Tijm - so that's another question - who scored the second goal?)
Keizer played left inside, in the second half Nuninga played right outside (it was because 2 days later he was to play for the NT as right outside instead of Bergholz and Ajax gave him opportunity to feel that position)

So, that's what I have
6-12-1964
friendly match de Graafschap - Ajax 0:3
Goals: Petersen, Nuninga or S.Tijm, Keizer

The line-up - ?
Who scored the second goal?
Did Cruijff play?


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BerichtGeplaatst: 05 aug 2013 21:04 
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It sucks because i don't have info from earlier than 1964/65. :evil:

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BerichtGeplaatst: 06 aug 2013 10:53 

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It sucks because i don't have info from earlier than 1964/65. :evil:
6 december 1964 IS 1964/1965 :)


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BerichtGeplaatst: 09 aug 2013 10:50 

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THE REST MATCHES WITH MISSED INFO!

1970

28-01 friendly Ajax - de Volewijckers 4:1 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
22-07 friendly SC Assen - Ajax 0:4 (The line-up?)
23-07 friendly VV Hoogeveen - Ajax 1:6 (The line-up?)
29-07 friendly Rood-Wit - Ajax 1:5 (The line-up?)
06-08 friendly Brugge - Ajax 2:2 (The line-up?)
13-08 friendly Ajax - Heerenveen 1:0 (The line-up?)
11-10 friendly Blauw Wit - Ajax 3:2 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
25-11 friendly Veerse boys - Ajax 0:7 (The line-up?)
29-12 friendly Ajax - Eintracht 6:2 (The line-up?)

1971

11-02 friendly Eversberg - Ajax 1:11 (The line-up?)
13-02 friendly VV Noordwijk - Ajax 1:3 (The line-up?)
14-02 friendly Ajax - Dynamo Zagreb 1:0 (The line-up?)
20-07 friendly VV Oldenzaal - Ajax 1:8 (The goalscorers?)
21-07 friendly VV Hoogeveen - Ajax 0:5 (The line-up?)
22-07 friendly GOMOS - Ajax 0:10 (The line-up?)
27-07 friendly Madese boys - Ajax 0:11 (The line-up?)
03-08 friendly Worth Rheden - Ajax 0:8 (The line-up?)

1972

30-01 friendly Haarlem - Ajax 3:4 (The line-up?)
02-02 friendly Olympique Marsaille - Ajax 2:2 (The line-up?)
27-05 friendly Beerschot - Ajax 2:3 (Who scored the first goal?)
18-07 friendly Hengelose Selectie - Ajax 1:7 (The line-up?)
20-07 friendly Hoogeveen - Ajax 0:7 (The line-up?)
21-07 friendly WVV Winschoten - Ajax 1:9 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
22-07 friendly Drachten - Ajax 2:11 (The line-up?)
24-07 friendly VV Noordwijk - Ajax 1:6 (The goalscorers?)
30-07 friendly SC Tongeren - Ajax 1:3 (The line-up?)
01-08 friendly Blauw Geel'38 - Ajax 2:14 (The line-up?)
26-09 friendly Blauw Zwart Vassenaar - Ajax 1:7 (The line-up?)

1973

16-02 friendly Olympiacos - Ajax 1:2 (The goalscorers?)
23-05 friendly Voscuyl - Ajax 3:3 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
03-06 friendly Willem II - Ajax 2:7 (The line-up?)
13-06 friendly Salamis - Ajax 0:2 (The line-up?)
10-07 friendly Hengelose Selectie - Ajax 2:6 (The goalscorers?)
13-07 friendly Assen Selectie - Ajax 0:10 (The line-up?)
14-07 friendly DOS'19 - Ajax 0:12 (The line-up?)
17-07 friendly VV Noordwijk - Ajax 1:2 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)

25-07 friendly TSV North-TUA Buddreich - Ajax 0:14 (The line-up?)
27-07 friendly Metz - Ajax 1:2 (The line-up?)
16-08 friendly Blauw Wit'38 - Ajax 0:9 (The line-up?)

1982

07-01 friendly RSA Aruba - Ajax 1:3 (The line-up?)
08-01 friendly Curasao - Ajax 0:2 (The line-up?)
10-01 friendly Transvaal Paramaribo - Ajax 0:3 (The line-up?)
12-01 friendly Robin Hood - Ajax 0:2 (The line-up?)
19-01 friendly FC Amsterdam - Ajax 0:4 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
17-02 friendly Toulouse - Ajax 0:9 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
23-02 friendly Ajax - Excelsior 3:2 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
19-07 friendly Valthermond - Ajax 2:23 (The line-up?)
20-07 friendly Alcides - Ajax 0:8 (The line-up?)
22-07 friendly Nieuw Buinen - Ajax 2:9 (The line-up?)
23-07 friendly Beylen - Ajax 0:12 (The line-up?)
27-07 friendly VV Noordwijk - Ajax 1:6 (The line-up?)
31-07 friendly Ajax - Eintracht 4:0 (The line-up?)
01-08 friendly Ajax - Austria 3:1 (The line-up?)
07-08 friendly DEV - Ajax 0:21 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
13-08 friendly Ajax - Tottenham 3:2 (The line-up?)
15-08 friendly Ajax - AZ 3:3 (The line-up?)
19-10 friendly Ajax - Wilhelmus 11:2 (The line-up?)

1983

19-01 friendly Blauw Zwart - Ajax 0:4 (The line-up?)
10-04 friendly Glasgow Rangers - Ajax 4:0 (The line-up?)
20-05 friendly Ajax - Mechelen 1:1 (The line-up?)


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BerichtGeplaatst: 09 aug 2013 18:34 
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Very good. I will look again on monday, Arsenij.

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BerichtGeplaatst: 09 aug 2013 19:02 

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Very good. I will look again on monday, Arsenij.
OK, Thank you )))


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BerichtGeplaatst: 10 aug 2013 11:06 

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I would like to ESPECIALLY EMPHASIZE the matches with missed info of goalscorers
(mostly the goalscorers are known and only the line-ups are missing)

06-12-64 friendly de Graafschap - Ajax 0-3 (goalscorers and line-up???)
31-01-65 friendly Wageningen - Ajax 1-3 (goalscorers and line-up???)
30-07-65 friendly Meidericher SV - Ajax 1-1 (goalscorer and line-up???)
31-07-65 friendly Borussia Neunkirchen - Ajax 5-2 (goalscorers and line-up???)
26-08-65 friendly Ajax - JOS 3-0 (goalscorers and line-up???)
22-10-65 friendly ZVV - Ajax (the score, goalscorers and line-up???)
08-06-66 friendly Cherno more (Varna, Bulgary) - Ajax 3-1 (goalscorer and line-up???)
25-08-66 friendly Ajax - Noordwijk 5-1 (goalscorers and line-up???)
between 12 and 17-09-66 three friendlies:
Noordwijk 5-2 (goalscorers and line-up???)
Spartaan'20 21-0 (goalscorers and line-up???)
JOS 13-0 (goalscorers and line-up???)
28-09-67 friendly Ajax - Noordwijk 9-0 (goalscorers and line-up???)
25-01-68 friendly Ajax - AZ'67 2-1 (goalscorers and line-up???)
19-07-69 friendly VV Bergeyk - Ajax 0-15 (goalscorers and line-up???)
28-01-70 friendly Ajax - de Volewijckers 4:1 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
11-10-70 friendly Blauw Wit - Ajax 3:2 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
20-07-71 friendly VV Oldenzaal - Ajax 1:8 (The goalscorers?)
27-05-72 friendly Beerschot - Ajax 2:3 (Who scored the first goal?)
21-07-72 friendly WVV Winschoten - Ajax 1:9 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
24-07-72 friendly VV Noordwijk - Ajax 1:6 (The goalscorers?)
16-02-73 friendly Olympiacos - Ajax 1:2 (The goalscorers?)
23-05-73 friendly Voscuyl - Ajax 3:3 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
10-07-73 friendly Hengelose Selectie - Ajax 2:6 (The goalscorers?)
17-07-73 friendly VV Noordwijk - Ajax 1:2 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
19-01-82 friendly FC Amsterdam - Ajax 0:4 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
17-02-82 friendly Toulouse - Ajax 0:9 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
23-02-82 friendly Ajax - Excelsior 3:2 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)
07-08-82 friendly DEV - Ajax 0:21 (The goalscorers? The line-up?)


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BerichtGeplaatst: 11 aug 2013 19:50 

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Found out the goalscorers of 2 matches :D

30-07-65 Meidericher SV - Ajax 1-1 (53' Henk Groot)
31-07-65 Borussia Neunkirchen - Ajax 5-2 (14' Arnold van Haren, 27' Ko Prins)

Nevertheless, still have no line-ups of both matches... :(


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BerichtGeplaatst: 12 aug 2013 23:19 
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I am very sorry, Arsenij. Despite all the magazines (Voetbal International), AJAX magazines and AJAX yearbooks(!) i could not find anything yet. :evil:

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BerichtGeplaatst: 12 aug 2013 23:51 

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I am very sorry, Arsenij. Despite all the magazines (Voetbal International), AJAX magazines and AJAX yearbooks(!) i could not find anything yet. :evil:
It is OK, thank you ))
I hope that step by step it all will work out, I do not know how but nevertheless...
Look, how detailed are the reports of the official matches in those yearbooks?
Just line-ups and the goalscorers? Only the goalscorers? Or every match has a report?


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BerichtGeplaatst: 13 aug 2013 14:42 
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No details at all. Just parts of players in pictures (sometimes) or one sentence that speaks about the game. No goalscorers or line-ups are mentioned.

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BerichtGeplaatst: 13 aug 2013 16:07 

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OK, well... the line-ups you've scanned - against Wuppertahl and Slowakie - where are they from?


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BerichtGeplaatst: 13 aug 2013 16:11 

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Now I am looking for anyone who can help with an info about VV Bergeijk. I e-mailed to them million times - no answer. Maybe there is someone in here who lives in Bergeijk or who has any friends out there or who know how to contact with their archivarius...


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BerichtGeplaatst: 14 aug 2013 15:52 
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OK, well... the line-ups you've scanned - against Wuppertahl and Slowakie - where are they from?
From an AJAX-yearbook.

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